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A problem with Godzilla VS King Ghidorah

 
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No this movie RAWKZ
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 4:02 pm    Post subject: A problem with Godzilla VS King Ghidorah Reply with quote

Bad acting. Ugly Characters (I'm looking at you M-11) a butt fugly Godzilla. Plot even worse than Gigan. King Ghidorah was actually awsome. So were the special effects. However you couldn't really follow the plot. "we are here to get rid of a monster and create another monster that the first monster killed 4 times in the 60s and 70s. And then we kill the monster and mechanize it to save you." Yeah how'd that work out? another thing to be pointed out is the vocabulary. "take that you dinosaur!" Well would a dinosaur be offended if someone said that to him. No. He wouldn't. He couldn't. He shouldn't.
Now you can yell at me cause this movie is popular, agree with me, or tell me what i'm missing.



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:01 pm    Post subject: Re: A problem with Godzilla VS King Ghidorah Reply with quote

Ghidorah-fest-16 wrote:
Bad acting.

Well, you can't really judge the actual acting by the godawful dub. But yes, the voice acting sucks. A lot.

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Ugly Characters (I'm looking at you M-11) a butt fugly Godzilla.

I for one think that the Ghido-Goji suit is one of the best Godzilla designs. But that's just me.

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Plot even worse than Gigan. King Ghidorah was actually awsome. So were the special effects. However you couldn't really follow the plot. "we are here to get rid of a monster and create another monster that the first monster killed 4 times in the 60s and 70s. And then we kill the monster and mechanize it to save you." Yeah how'd that work out?

Well, the Heisei series has no connection whatsoever to the movies from 1955-1975, so this would be the first time that King Ghidorah ever shows up. The '60s and '70s battles between Godzilla and Ghidorah never existed.

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another thing to be pointed out is the vocabulary. "take that you dinosaur!" Well would a dinosaur be offended if someone said that to him. No. He wouldn't. He couldn't. He shouldn't.

What exactly does that have to do with vocabulary? Anyway, he wasn't trying to insult the Godzillasaurus. It's like when your computer freezes and you say "Damn, stupid computer!" It's not going to insult it.

So yeah, that's it.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The real problem with the movie is the load of continuaty (sp?) errors it leaves behind. First of all, considering the time travel changes, the Futurians would've won years before the nuclear sub remutated the Godzillasaurus. SpaceGodzilla requires Biolantte to exist in order for himself to exist. The biggest error lies in Destoroyah's origin. Destoroyah was created by the oxygen destroyer, but according to Godzilla VS King Ghidorah, the Oxygen Destroyer was never used since Godzilla wasn't there. Even if the used it on Ghidorah, the results would've been chaotic since he's on dry land instead of water.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mighty wrote:
The real problem with the movie is the load of continuaty (sp?) errors it leaves behind. First of all, considering the time travel changes, the Futurians would've won years before the nuclear sub remutated the Godzillasaurus. SpaceGodzilla requires Biolantte to exist in order for himself to exist. The biggest error lies in Destoroyah's origin. Destoroyah was created by the oxygen destroyer, but according to Godzilla VS King Ghidorah, the Oxygen Destroyer was never used since Godzilla wasn't there. Even if the used it on Ghidorah, the results would've been chaotic since he's on dry land instead of water.

G vs KG is a stand alone like final wars or GMK
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^No it's not....the Heisei Series has very tight continuity.

Anyway, yes, that's my big problem with this film as well. SciFi Japan wrote an article about this issue, and they explained it rather nicely:

http://www.scifijapan.com/articles/2007/08/16/godzilla-vs-king-ghidorah-time-travel-and-the-origins-of-godzilla/

This is in no way official, but it's still a good theory.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Other things to be stated to mighty's post
When they made King ghidorah it replaced Godzilla. The oxygen destroyer was used on Ghidorah in 54 along with Ghidorah fighting Biolante and spaceGhidorah
I still don't really like this movie but not as much as I hate TOMG... I'll make a thread COMPLAINING ABOUT THAT..... Soon.... Very soon.... Sooner than you think....... So soon the thread is giving you a big hug..... Very very very very very very soon. very BERRY soon.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ghidorah-fest-16 wrote:
Other things to be stated to mighty's post
When they made King ghidorah it replaced Godzilla. The oxygen destroyer was used on Ghidorah in 54 along with Ghidorah fighting Biolante and spaceGhidorah


Wait, what? Godzilla 1954 and Heisei Godzilla are two differant monsters. The Godzillasaurus has nothing to do with Godzilla 1954. If it had stayed on Lagos, it would have become the Godzilla seen in Godzilla Raids Again, and all that stuff would have happened. The Hesiei Series is really just like an alternate reality.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 3:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Than what explains Destroyah? I'm really confused........
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Again, Godzilla 1954 is a COMPLETELY DIFFERANT monster. He exists regardless as to weather the Godzillasaurus exists or not. Because of this, Desotoryoah is in no way effected by the removal of the Godzillasaurus, because the Oxygen Destroyer is still used.

EDIT: I'm gonna try to explain this, so bear with me:

1944: Futurans take Godzillasaurus from Lagos and replace him with three Dorats. They dump Godzillasaurus in the ocean.* Later that year, nuclear testing is conducted around Lagos. King Ghidorah is created.

*If this hadn't have happened, then Godzillasaurus would have become Godzilla from GRA, and all the events from 1955-1975 would have taken place.

1954: Mutated by the radiation left from the bomb, a gigantic prehistoric monster, Godzilla, attacks Japan, and is killed with the Oxygen Destroyer. Destoroyah is created.

1970s: Godzillasaurus makes contact with a nuclear sub. He becomes a SECOND Godzilla.

1984: The SECOND Godzilla awakens and attacks Japan. He falls into Mt;. Mihara and is presumed dead.

1989: Godzilla reawakens, and fights Biollante. Biollante takes to the skies. Godzilla returns to the sea.

1991: King Ghidorah, controled by the Futurans, finally makes an appearance on Earth. He fights Godzilla, who has grown to 100 meters. King Ghidorah is killed, Mech-King Ghidorah is created and both monsters fall into the sea. Godzilla awakens.

1992: Godzilla fights Mothra and Battra. Godzilla is defeated, and Mothra, with Godzilla's cells on her antenae, goes into space. These cells fuse with Biollante's cells and SpaceGodzilla is created.

1993: Mecha-King Ghidorah is salvaged and is used to create Mechagodzilla II. Mechagodzilla II is defeated by Godzilla. Baby Godzilla hatches, and Rodan pops up briefly, but is killed.

1994: SpaceGodzilla arrives on Earth and fights Godzilla and M.O.G.U.E.R.A. SpaceGodzilla is defeated.

1995: Burning Godzilla shows up, and fights Destoroyah as a result of the FIRST Godzilla. Destoroyah is defeated, and Godzilla melts. At the very end, Godzilla Jr. absorbs his father's radiation, and becomes a THIRD Godzilla. The fate of this Godzilla is unknown.

That's basicly the Sci-Fi Japan article, and I think it makes sense. There's still a few problems, like why Godzilla is suddenly larger in Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah, but it still works.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i can xplain it in my own way that ya'll might believe.

how spacegodzilla's created:

-the future douche's take godzillasaurus(godzilla 54,only that 1 godzilla.no other)

-godzilla 54 is not created,but godzilla 84 is created;so therefore biollante would be created,mothra would fight godzilla & go to space.so spacegodzilla is created

destroyah:

-remember the oxygen destroyer was made bfore 54 G,was used because of 54 G,& serizawa wouldn't of died.

-but godzilla 55 would of been created & the oxygen destroyer would of been used.

-anguirus would of been created,but would of died eventually.

so there u have it.probaly not what sci-fi said(i didn't read it)but thats how it should be.& your welcome
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